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Post by Panthers64 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:48 pm

With one game to go - and trying not to think too negatively about the season, I rated the players (& coach) according to my expectations.
See what you think....

Basically the % score indicated how I thought they performed relative to their potential.


                               Rating (Max 10)
                        Player rating   Potential Rating        %
Kyle Hartigan (Crows) 10                10                   100
Caleb Daniel          8                 8                   100
Nick Liddle                  9                10                    90
Keegan Brooksby          8                 9                    89
Michael Wundke          8                 9                    89
Nathan Daniel          8                 9                    89
Tarak Redigolo          8                 9                    89
Jake Veide                  7                 8                    88
Joseph Haines          7                 8                    88
Roland Ah Chee          7                 8                    88
Shannon Snook          7                 8                    88
Tom Fields                  7                 8                    88
Xavier Gotch          7                 8                    88
Cameron De Visser  6                 7                    86
Darcy Hourigan          6                 7                    86
Tom Beilby                  6                 7                    86
Jordan Taylor          6                 7                    86
Josh Giddings          6                 7                    86
Nic Schwarz          6                 7                    86
Scott Taylor          6                 7                    86
Tyson Brown          6                 7                    86
Lewis Makepeace          5                 6                    83
Joel Cross                  8                10                    80
Nick Murphy          7                 9                    78
Peter Rolfe (injured)  7                 9                    78
Brad Crabb                  6                 8                    75
John McDonald          6                 8                    75
Josh Thewlis          6                 8                    75
Pat Kerin                  6                 8                    75
Alex Cailotto          5                 7                    71
Alex Moyle                  5                 7                    71
Bryce Damin          5                 7                     71
Emmanuel Irra          5                 7                     71
Mason Shaw (Port Power)5                 7                     71
Sam Richman (injured)  5                 7                    71
Todd McKay          5                 7                     71
Brett Eddy                 6                 9                     67
Joe Burgoyne          4                 6                     67
Brede Seccull          5                 8                     63
Daniel Bass                  5                 8                     63
Ky Miller  (injured)  5                 9                     56

Ron Fuller                  6                 8                      75
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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by Panther Pack on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:47 am

Liddle, Brooksby, Caleb Daniel, Nathan Daniel, Wundke and Cross have been our best this year in my opinion.

Didn't include Hartigan as he is not a South player.

Also did Beilby leave the club then return again? For some reason I though he played as forward pocket late last year and then didn't reappear until mid this year.
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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by saintal on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:52 am

Panther Pack wrote:Liddle, Brooksby, Caleb Daniel, Nathan Daniel, Wundke and Cross have been our best this year in my opinion.

Didn't include Hartigan as he is not a South player.

Also did Beilby leave the club then return again? For some reason I though he played as forward pocket late last year and then didn't reappear until mid this year.
Yeah, played 4 or 5 games late last season and showed a bit. Not sure where he went for the start of this season.

Will hold of until the final game has been played before posting some thoughts/review.

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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by B&W63 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:11 pm

Not sure that I understand your ratings P64 but they seem to be very generous to me.
We have some very spirited players but there have been many times this when many have gone missing in body and mind, very few can hold their head high.
I believe Beilby went to Vic for employment but the must have returned mid year.
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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by Panthers64 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:00 pm

My aim was to see who played above or below expectations this year. Some players had a higher expectation (eg Cross (10), Murphy (9)) and my assessment was that ONLY Caleb & Hartigan achieved their expectation goal. That is not a high praise for most who failed to achieve expectations. Biggest losses were Miller , Seccull, Eddy , Rolfe & Bassy who are all class players who were either injured or unable to perform as well as I predicted. Brooksby, Danial (both) & Redigolo were big improvers. Lidds , gotchy, Cross , Fields & Wundke were good. Hopefully with new coach in 2014 the players will stay and really perform next year!
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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by saintal on Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:37 am

43 players donned the jumper this season. Games played in brackets. Slow day at work so here it goes..

Ah Chee (15) Can do some nice things, but also makes a lot of errors.
Bass (9) Yet to cement spot at league level. Needs a big 2014.
Beilby (4) Showed more in his handful of games last season than this year.
Brooksby (16) Developing well. Wears heart on sleeve, which is good.
Taq, Brown (3) Gone. Lacked size for a key backman.
Ty, Brown (3). Needs a good run with injuries.
Cailotto (2) Reserve judgment for 12 months’ time.
Crabb (15) Lively in attack but lacks polish to finish off his work.
Cross (20) Disposal let him down this season, but should still finish top 3 or 4 in B+F.
Damin (1) Can’t remember much of his debut.
C, Daniel (10) Will be a player. Poise under pressure and good skills.
N, Daniel (18) Strong finish to the year after sluggish start.
De Visser (2) Injured for a good part of the season.
Dowdell (6) Playing better footy at Centrals than he ever did for us
Eddy (12) Tough year, will hopefully find his feet next season.
Fields (15) Good and bad. Needs another year at this level before judging.
Giddings (14) Quiet achiever who did enough to retain his spot each week.
Gotch (19) Had his best year in a few.
Haines (4) Showed some dash, disposal needs work.
Hartigan (16). Top 3 in the B+F. Very good. Will be missed.
Hourigan (1) With an ineffective fwd line all year, thought he may have gotten more of a run.
Irra (1) Hasn’t really come on yet.
Kerrin (7) See Haines.
Liddle (20) Another Knuckey Cup. Very good in second half of season.
Mackay (1) Was good in his one game. Too good for SANFL.
McDonald (13) Thought he was unlucky to be left out on a few occasions.
McKay (9) Didn’t do a heap during the first half of the season.
McKernan (1) Pea heart, but was missed.
Miller (5) Step backwards after last season. Injuries didn’t help.
Murphy (17) Indifferent year, but finished off reasonably well.
Perrey (4) Gone. Never cemented a spot.
Pfeiffer (10) Was showing signs of improvement before leaving.
Redigolo (20) Another consistent season.
Rolfe (3) Massive loss.
Schwarz (8 ) Good “in and under” but skills need work
Seccull (8 ) See Eddy.
Shaw (7) Won’t have him next season. A fair way to go.
Snook (19) Was lucky at times to keep his spot. Needed more from him.
Stribling (10) Wasn’t having a great year, but still a loss.
Taylor (7) Will go close to winning the ressies B+F.
Thewlis (20) Stayed fit, but didn’t have the impact of prior seasons. Hands/skills not as sure as previously.
Veide (5) Injury plagued season. In our best 21 when fit.
Wundke (20). Ken Farmer Medal despite not always having his kicking boot on this season. Vital that we keep him.

Knuckey Cup prediction:

Liddle
Hartigan
Cross
Redigolo
Gotch

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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by Panther Pack on Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:13 am

Good write up Saintal. My knuckey cup top 5 are:

Liddle
Hartigan
Cross
Daniel (Nathan)
Brooksby
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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by prowler on Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:45 pm

Mine is

Liddle
Hartigan
Gotch
Cross
Redigolo
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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by JJH on Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:57 pm

Panthers64 wrote:With one game to go - and trying not to think too negatively about the season, I rated the players (& coach) according to my expectations.
See what you think....

Basically the % score indicated how I thought they performed relative to their potential.


                               Rating (Max 10)
                        Player rating   Potential Rating        %
Kyle Hartigan (Crows) 10                10                   100
Caleb Daniel          8                 8                   100
Nick Liddle                  9                10                    90
Keegan Brooksby          8                 9                    89
Michael Wundke          8                 9                    89
Nathan Daniel          8                 9                    89
Tarak Redigolo          8                 9                    89
Jake Veide                  7                 8                    88
Joseph Haines          7                 8                    88
Roland Ah Chee          7                 8                    88
Shannon Snook          7                 8                    88
Tom Fields                  7                 8                    88
Xavier Gotch          7                 8                    88
Cameron De Visser  6                 7                    86
Darcy Hourigan          6                 7                    86
Tom Beilby                  6                 7                    86
Jordan Taylor          6                 7                    86
Josh Giddings          6                 7                    86
Nic Schwarz          6                 7                    86
Scott Taylor          6                 7                    86
Tyson Brown          6                 7                    86
Lewis Makepeace          5                 6                    83
Joel Cross                  8                10                    80
Nick Murphy          7                 9                    78
Peter Rolfe (injured)  7                 9                    78
Brad Crabb                  6                 8                    75
John McDonald          6                 8                    75
Josh Thewlis          6                 8                    75
Pat Kerin                  6                 8                    75
Alex Cailotto          5                 7                    71
Alex Moyle                  5                 7                    71
Bryce Damin          5                 7                     71
Emmanuel Irra          5                 7                     71
Mason Shaw (Port Power)5                 7                     71
Sam Richman (injured)  5                 7                    71
Todd McKay          5                 7                     71
Brett Eddy                 6                 9                     67
Joe Burgoyne          4                 6                     67
Brede Seccull          5                 8                     63
Daniel Bass                  5                 8                     63
Ky Miller  (injured)  5                 9                     56

Ron Fuller                  6                 8                      75

If thats how you rate the perfomance of players this year then its no wonder SAFC are in this position. You are acepting mediocrity with the ratings you've given. SAFC finish second last with the worst % and not one player is rated below 50%???? that says a bit right there. How did you come about you ratings for Burgoyne, Moyle? didn't see them named much this year, whats the go there?
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Re: Player ratings for 2013

Post by Panthers64 on Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:20 am

Bottom line was that football is a team game. If most players perform below their potential the team will perform poorly. That is what happened. I think the team potential is still there. With a positive coach and confidence this squad has potential to beat anyone. If we need to add players - we really lack some fast outside players. Players who can run and carry. Most AFL clubs tend to have quick indigenous players in this role. Ky Miller has potential if he can get over his injuries & personal problems. It would be nice to get Alwyn Davey back or a player of his ilk. Alfie Skuse was the classic from yesteryear.
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